Sunday, January 13, 2008

goddamn serious thought

Inndiaaaaa Inndiaaaa! clap clap clap... Inndiaaaaa Inndiaaaa! clap clap clap!

**********no disclaimer**********
i want every single mofo to read this and understand what shit he/she is upto
if u cant handle this language... u will never be able to handle anything at all!
u must be happy u were not in front of me when i was typing this...
*******no disclaimer ends********

what ever you say, our country rules! there is no way that is going to change!!
after 4 months in europe, i have learnt it, the fukin hard way...
Believe me ladies and gentelmen... damen und herren... u dont know what our country is worth!

this is a warning message to all those leaving India to "pursue" "higher fukin studies" or whatever in the US or wherever the hell they are going...
just lose that thought... you are getting no where...

first... leme start with the basics...

why do we study?
to learn new things...
why?
i'm interested in something and i wanna know more...
what else?
i like this... i like that... blah blah....
ok! time out! stop all this... and tell me where u are headed?
i wanna give the world some thing... i wanna make a goddamn difference... i dont wanna live like some normal nigger...
oh! so... u wanna be supernormal? beware... be fukin aware... u may be headed towards abnormality!!

i did a little bitta questioning about why ppl go abroad... and the reasons i got are pathetic!
if u tell me i'm goin abroad coz i wanna bone some biach n make a mark, that would be close to reality... everything else is 100% pure unadulterated bird poo...

here are some of the reasons i get! and i quote
"not enough opportunities here"
"the course i'm taking up is not available here"
"too much discrimination based on caste... and with reservation, i get nothing" - the one reason i felt sorry about
"i wanna make a difference... i will come back and do something for my country" - well u better remember the latter part... i hope the perspective of my country doesnt change!!
"prospects of a better job"
"$ dude! i can make a hell lotta money" - go for it man! u can do it!!

see what i mean!!
you are prepared to leave your country, your parents, your near and dear ones for ever!! and for such lame reasons?!!
i goddamn cant comprehend this shit!! are u drunk or something?!!

dont you think the only thing that you need to do in life, as your goddamn moral responsibility, is to keep your parents happy? so... screw thoughts of world improvement and such other "noble" endevours...
first do what u must do... you are not albi (i call einstein that, tribute to FRIENDS episode 9x20).
and the first step in keepin your parents happy is in your presence with them...

life... ur living it, not for urself... its for ur family, ur mom, ur dad, ur sis, ur bro and prolly ur unknown children and then the known ones as well... and... u dont need to make urs so glamorous... u gotta kill ur ass to make theirs glamorous... and going abroad is not the fukin way!

u wanna live happily, what better way than making the ones around u feel good about ur fukin presence?
do u know what is the most important thing u need to make that happen?? its easy... u gotta fukin be there, with them... when they need u... & making a fukin phone call from some foreign soil and saying "hi... im doing good... listen, i need to go, i got an assignment to submit in one hour" doesnt exactly qualify...

what good is it if you are 10 hours behind IST and you need two years to come back... for a short visit! coz u dont get enough holidays... and the tickets are damn expensive!
oh hero! you were on a quest for making money... what point in making it and not spending it?! damn! u people! so fukin unbelivable!

do you understand how much this decision is going to change you life?! it will never again be the same!
and for one moment, dont think its fun to live in a foreign developed country... no matter how developed the country is, you are still a foreigner there... and they know it!
do you fancy taking a shower in a 4x4 tub, with curtains drawn so that no water gets spilt on the non water proof floor?! who the makes a bathroom floor and doesnt make it water proof?! "oops! sorry, i forgot!"
a goddamn bathroom needs to be water proof! its the basic requirement!
you are not allowed a postpaid mobile connection as u dont have a SSN (social secutiry number, a number to identify ur lame ass coz numbers are easier to search than people's names) which u get only when u work. and prepaids suck as incoming calls are charged!!
plus... do u fancy working as a waiter in a restaurant? a janitor in a dorm (unless its a gals dorm, i'm not at all interested), a moote horavnu in wallmart (they dont make u horu moote... but its boxes and u operate machines)... just because they are fancy, doesnt mean u can do it! cleaning a toilet with a parke or a mop makes no goddamn diff... its the same... cleaning shit! (in the ultimate meaning of the word, tribute to beasty's 39 page essay)
to one of the guys i asked this, and he said it was a welcome break! from hectic schedule! and something new he hadn't done before!! WHAT? u think its cool to work like that? i would rather kill myself than serve food to a foreigner, who is in no way thankful for it!
i would rather be a waiter in a sea side restaurant in goa... atleast people coming there like India...
have you ever served food to your parents? cleaned your own toilets? NO... thats was not 'ur' work...
KISS MY ASS... u losers! you know what else you have never done before? and you will never be able to do ever in your life... Suck your own dicks...

and getting into a US university is a pain in the ass... and thats an understatement! the number of documents u need to produce, literally produce... "statement of purpose" as it is called! recos... if i were you, i would go there, give them the finger and come back... and would open a nair chaaya shap on hosur road...
why are you so ready to kiss ass?? that too a white american one?!

werent you the one complaining about lack of opportunities here?! you are not capable of getting a decent score good enough to get you into the course of your choice! and you were pissed with the reservations! but you are fukin ready to kiss some lilly ass giving loads of reocs, given by our people, making some cock and bull story for the "SOP" haha! i can only laff at u infedels!!


as for me... i'm content with leading a normal life... atleast i'm happy and i dont have a constant fire all over my ass... i can afford to eat Vena stores idly, drink a brahmin coffee bar by-two coffee, eat that occassional VB dosa... go for an MTR full meals, just because i can and u cant... and dont even get me started on the junk food... its divine! gobi manchurian... masala puri... paani puri... and i dont have to restrain myself from spending money... i have saved enough... its time to savour... and u guys aready there, enjoy your half cooked rasam and rice with some dipshit chips that tastes like shit... the ones yet to get elevated to that state, well think about it... its nor all that worthy u see...


23 people changed their decision and are happy to be where they are after reading this...

20 comments:

sumjss said...

very inspired/angry young man blog,venky saar...wonder what incident got ur chaddis in a knot to come out with a real spit-venom(no pun intended!!!) article....
btw,howdee these days?? no more german trips??
sumant

bunty said...

ah!! the much awaited blog has finally come.. after taking interviews of all Boschlers planning to go to us for further studies u hav expressed ur thoughts..
People who dont know, even i was one of the person who was interviewed by venom and after reading the blog i decided to share my toughts about y i choose to do my further studies in us...
and these are my opinions..
also the language used here is to match u r special effects:)... nothing personal..

I am proud to be an Indian. if was given a chance to choose in which country i should be born again i would choose india.. i realised the value of being an Indian when i started the journey of Aashayein Foundation.

India was once the Golden Bird. it was the country known for its gold and men. BUT ALL THIS WAS IN PAST.. today, we hav still long way to catch up in terms of technologies in comparision with other developed countries.

what is the fucking point in just sitting and thinking about the history that is a past now?? which cannot be brought back.. look at what is in present..

we say that we shuld not have caste system in our society but bloody hell who is the part of the society?? we blame it on the government for dividing the country on the name of Reservations for backward caste. but fucking do we tak any actions to make sure that people from backward class gets a chance to experss their talents?

corruption, water scarity, no education, lack of proper infrastucture, increasing inflation, pathetic roads, crowded bus, killing of girl child and on and on.. bloody for every problem we balme some one or the other.. blaming blaming and blaming thats what we hae been doing.. blame the government emplyoees for cottuption, blame the industiralist for the pollution, blame the parents who kill the girl child and if we find no one we put the blame on GOVERNMENT.. fucking assholes thats what we have been doing just BLAME some one or the other...

and we call ourself as Indians. tell me if a bird pees in your house wil u leave it as it is and sit there and put the blame on the bird?? u will clean that "Unadultrated bird poo" why becuase its u r house and u take the responsibility of cleaning it.. but when it comes to corruption we dont take the responsibility for the mess we created we do the eaiset thing BLAME GAME.. and to put icing on the COW DUNG we say that we are proud of our rich history and we should do everything to make sure that we retain it...

Being Indian is being Humble, being peaceful, being a person who loves their parents, being simple, being lovable, believing in Ahimsa.. its the thought that makes u an Indian. we fucking dont become other person when we are at work.. we are the same person every were.. no matter were u r.. an Indian is an Indian where ever he is..

today we still have injustice in most parts of our country.. our motherland needs childrens who take RESPONSIBILITY and not play the BLAME GAME. we should clean the shit that is around us..

for me i have chosen to do my MS in US to get the technologies that are used there.. i choose to go to US to develop myself in the current trends in the market... so that when i come back i can reach out millions of Indians by this technologies.. put India on the global map..

i am content with my life but at the same time ll do what ever i can to make a difference!!

hope this will change the thought that not all people go to US for enjoying life!! i know a couple of my friends who have gone there to make a difference..

Venkatasubramanian said...

@ bunty... ur reply under process...

Chakki_peeso! said...

I am an E blogger too.. Atlast ... EVeryone used to say I should use E blog instead of orkut to promote my "cause" :)

O sorry Its comments on your blog right... Yes yes...I like it.. More later...(comments on this blog)

Venkatasubramanian said...

@bunty... u may wanna look at...
http://lyambda.blogspot.com/2008/01/this-world-is-matrix.html

Pramod said...

Hi, I got forwarded to this blog through a common friend. Leaving aside the niceties, very well written! Angry, spitting venom but most of it a reality nevertheless.

I agree with you on most of the things as I believe the same. most of the people who go to the US. Money is the first criteria. They don't know much, but end up coming here for their 'Masters'! They blame the Indian system for it not working, forgetting the fact that they are product of the same. Well, the whole 9 yards.

But, I also disagree with you on certain things. Some of them , DO come here for LEARNING. Some of them, DO want to MAKE A DIFFERENCE to OUR COUNTRY! Some, of them, actually want to leave their country behind for their own personal shit (Well, cannot comment on that, as its an individuals threshold!) And some of them have this unfortunate charecteristic of getting bored too easily!

I, according to your post, am one of the culprits. I had a well paying job, in which I was doing pretty well!

Do I know what my country Is worth?More than anyone. So, Do I feel bad that I have left most of my friends and family behind? Yes I do. Do I regret that I came here? Nope. Even after reading your blogpost? Nope. Why? Several reasons. Mainly, I get bored very easily. Bachelors in Electronics && Communication. Work Experience in the Software Services industry. Masters in Wireless Networks. And now, Doctoral in Applied Mathematics. You get the idea!

Finally, I am a believer that a person, his aims, his actions and finally his intentions do not have a yardstick to be measured with.

Nice read

Pramod

Venkatasubramanian said...

@pramod
thanks for reading through and also commenting!!
i'm not critising anyone! but offcourse the language i've used is a little "crossing the line"
i just want everyone to understand that India is not in anyway inferior to any of the countries you go to for whatever reasons!
u dont have to stay in India to show your patriotism... just at least make an effort to see how India was in the past.. and how we are now...

Fudge said...

Jesus man , All you are doing is just ranting! Fine you got a problem with going abroad that is fine. But telling everyone else that its a fucking stupid thing to do is not right. Here are some of the reasons why people DO go abroad :
1> Better teaching techniques(quality of education). Western teaching has been know to be more market oriented and practical. The frekking syllabus we do in your high school is shit. True its more core and improves the base but for crying out loud, our godadmned engineers are good-for-nothing lame parrots.
2> Exposure is wider. Living in a different country makes you able to manage a lot of your life. Makes a man out of you.
3> In some cases time period is less. For eg , the time of flying training. Also there is no politics or any BS of sorts.

Now about the part where you think working as a janitor or waitress is menial. Dude , you are really messed up. No work is small. Westerners at least have respect for labor and human life. Agreed that you wont be treated as a 'bro' but put yourself in their position. How do we treat foreigners in our country [read = rape cases in india]. So yea you are an outsider - cant help it !The part about having a lot of paper work and SSN. Well thats just being organized and methodical. I find no problem with that.We have people in India fudging a SC document to get a seat in college. And YES i have cleaned my own toilet and served my parents food. And trust me the college system is severely compromised in India. I dont think our students get a fair chance. Go out and ask people who have got a great score still without a college seat. And hell yea if you have a great score why NOT go abroad for studying. I dont think that makes your love for your nation one bit less.

As an after thought .. Nationality is within you , no one can take away that fact. So what are you whining about ? That going and working there makes you any less on an Indian? Well go wear an I am proud to be an Indian tee ! Ranting and abusing on a blog wont help. Oh and the 26 you converted.. good for you, you are one of those Indian who are so fucking scared about losing their identity that they fight hard and hold on to it like a teddy bear !

Deepak said...

An angry post there!!
i agree with you to a certain extent. But my take is:
whats wrong in going and studying abroad!! in india u gain respect only if u are a doc, engineer or lawyer..if u are a Bsc grad u get no respect.. the great scientists we have scientists out there who are underpaid..the result,they join the IT or the MBA bandwagon.
And ned i talk about the great indian politicians and the synonymous corruption??

we must blame ourselves for this state of india. y dont we borrow the good parts of western system.. social security, less corruption, infrastructure?? We get to do some true engineering there. Unlike here ,where majority 'buy' projects and aim for a distinction to be an engineer...y do we only borrow the junk food,mall,marry-today-divorce-tomorrow culture??

ppl say money is not everything in life...ask a beggar and will he agree to the same?? its not enough provided you have enopugh of it. How much is enough ? thats upto u to decide and be contented with it. true, that it cant buy u relationships but if u can earn and make someone else's life better whats wrong with earning more $$?? Instead of being selfish u can earn more and give away more..

Venkatasubramanian said...

Danke schön für the response!!
I appreciate all you people reading this… and I should the say, the secret of that is the language used!  and some frnds as well!  more than 50 hits in two days! Even the favourite thing I’ve written about didn’t gain that many hits! 
Anyway…
The language doesn’t imply I’m angry or pissed off! And I am not against people going to US for higher studies… go for it people! I know it is easier to get into a univ in US than into IISc! 
But… the point of the blog is to tell u that MS/Mtech/Phd in whatever BE field you have done is not the pinnacle of life!
Picture this… from the day we are born (in fact from 9 months prior) our parents are the ones supporting us… they’ve stayed awake through countless nights… spent endlessly to educate us, feed us, entertain us and what not! And once we get a mere BE or whatever degree, we just blow them away and go to some foreign country?! That too I think on loans(80%)… for which they pledge the home they have built out of their hard earned money! It just doesn’t make sense!
Especially once we go to a foreign country, we generally don’t come back… and we tend to stay away from our parents! Which I think is… I don’t kno… immoral? Its only our duty to keep them as happy as they have brought us up! Isn’t it?
What good is a double doctrate and post doctrate when u cant live with UR family? I mean come on!! It all seems so selfish! I want to do something different, I want this, I want that… come on… seriously tell me, what good is an engineer with big brains doing some hi-fi work in US, to ‘our country’?? and everyone talks about making a difference, making India a better place!

and below u will find my replies to specific individuals...

Venkatasubramanian said...

@pramod… I congratulate u on ur efforts!! Way to go man! I can only dream to be as qualified as u are! (no kidding) but… again… I can only point out that its all selfish! isn't it?! :P
Tell me… are you going to come back to India afte ur doctrate? If so… what are u going to do here? Teach? Join ISRO/BARC? I don’t really know man! If u really do come back and make the difference u wanted to, I would totally worship u!!

Pramod said...

I seem to be hooked on to your blog!!

To your question(s)
1. I ain't that qualified! (Ruthvika, you know here I believe, is a friend. Cross-check with her :P)

2. I never said that I am not selfish! I am! In fact every human being on this planet is! I can point out that you staying close to your folks, eating out at the fantastic places you have listed (I am so friggin' jealous!) is infact a kind of a selfish act. Its only how the selfishness manifests itself decides the good and the bad.

3. Yes! My aim in life is to teach. In an IIT! I wanted to get into an IIT so much that I burnt my b***s out! Missed it by a whisker. As a substitute would love to teach in an IIT, if given a chance. I hate corporate culture. To the core! Granted that I was well paid. But, it did not substitute for the sheer amount of drama that goes behind the scenes.

4. Getting into an IISc IS tougher! I can vouch for that.

5. Its not necessary to write a "kiss the white ass" SOP all the time. People do appreciate sincerity and work ethics (sparse, but they do exist).

6. Finally, remember that I am in now way criticizing your views. In fact I agree to most of it! But yes, I believe in certain things that I don't let go off. It can be deemed as selfishness. But, then again, as I said, EVERYONE is selfish!

Venkatasubramanian said...

@fudge boy…
I’m got no goddamn problem with no one going no where… and I’m not tellin nothing is right or wrong…

Ranting abuses wont help, I kno… but atleast I’m happy I’ve put these thoughts in who ever read my blog… and if u think wearing a T-shirt saying ‘I luv India’ is sending a message, so be it!

If I’m ranting about MY people leaving MY country… what are u actually doing?
Justifying why u ppl run away??

Haha!! Laughter is the best medicine they say! And ive been cured of my cold which was there when I started writing this blog! :)

I don’t know how the teaching and techniques are… I don’t care or know or wanna know how the exposure is… and I don’t care about BS either… all I know is that u ppl are ready to do shit if u are guaranteed a seat in a US university…
Who the hell said living in a different country makes a man out of u?! Just because u do ur laundry, cleaning blah blah doesn’t make a man out of u!! if that’s the case… just for records sake… u are talking to a triple time man… who had become a man in May 2000… that’s a good 7 years ago… and I say that belief is just Crap!! Fearing the situation over here and runnin away and doing menial work isnt the trait of a man… theres a different term describing such ppl… it starts with a 'cow'… and ends in an 'ard'…

You are ready to clean plates of some dumb lilly ass for a litle money? And u are even ready to justify that shit?! Oh! And look who u say are having respect for human life! I see… that’s why they went throwing tantrums in Iran… that’s why they bombed entire afghan and still are lookin for laden… well… I see… i have no comments bout people who eat burgers and sue the shop for selling tasty burgers, just because they cant stop eating and are getting obese…

How we treat foreigners! Wow! U got some real good GK!! Bravo…
But u forget our policy of ‘athithi devo bhava’… there are many ppl like u n me… and not everyone knows that policy… so they tend to overlook… and if I write about that, it would be meaningless ranting!

And the after thought…
Leaving the country and working in a diff country doesn’t make u any less Indian… it makes us lesser in the eyes of these “developed” countries… and the number is *23*…

Whats more amusing to me is the defense u ppl are coming up with!
A waiter is just a mere waiter… the fellow who is bringing my food... and he will have his ass whooped if he does anything different!

I’m better off with my teddy… instead of being some kittogiro waiter in MCDonalds to make a few extra bucks!
Remember, by being a clerk, waiter, janitor, whatever else means u are going out of ur way to barely live over there… Come on! Is ur travel to US worth all the pains u are taking?! And for what reason?!! Just because u can get a degree which ur score here wouldn’t fetch? And why… u say reservation! cant u go that extra step here and put in more efforts and get some extra score and ensure ur seat, inspite of reservations? Remember, that would only be an effort of a few months before the qualifying exam… and the waiter job is for as long as u want money to feed urself in the US!!

Venkatasubramanian said...

@pramod

no no... being an aquarian i love these word games... and i love criticism...

i totally agree everyone is selfish... take me for instance... all these days i wasn't bothered about any of this! why now? thats a new blog material :)

all i'm sayin is... why put a show... just say it... i'm going there because I WANT TO GO... and not i want to make things different!

plus i know how tough it is to get through GATE! i didnt even qualify... :)

Venkatasubramanian said...

@deepak
Thanks for the agreement!

‘we must blame ourselves for this state of india. y dont we borrow the good parts of western system.. social security, less corruption, infrastructure??’
Hmm… u tell me!! Everyone keeps runnin away… when the cream of the country runs away… only the cream’s stain is left!! To bring in change, we must arise! We must try and make it happen! Else nothing will really happen!!

‘in india u gain respect only if u are a doc, engineer or lawyer’ – agreed! I wanted to do BSc in Physics and for this very reason my dad asked me to do BE! I don’t regret that decision! Else I wouldn’t be where I am now! But… I seem to wonder, where I would’ve been had I done what I wanted!!

‘we have scientists out there who are underpaid..the result,they join the IT or the MBA bandwagon’ – so… its about the money! Tell me man… whats the use of money when u don’t have time to spend it?! And what good if u cant spend it on your family?! So just goin abroad earning is no use… I woud rather have a lesser salary and stay more with my family…

And please don’t talk about corruption! I admit… I have nothing to counter that...

Venkatasubramanian said...

@ everyone!

i'm still sad not many commented about the:
http://lyambda.blogspot.com/2008/01/this-world-is-matrix.html

this is what we must talk about! not about US!!

Fudge said...

Dude,
If you have no respect of labour and think that jobs are menial you have truly lost you mind. And what the fuck are you talking about living for someone else ?? Christ man , its your life you goto live it ! You parents may have done everything in the world for you but that doesnt mean you goto sit my mamma's lap ! Get real buddy, I am sure they will be happy to see you do well in life and be happy. I doubt thats selfish in any respect.

You clearly have a problem about your nationality. 'Athiti Devo Bahva' is on paper. Go out on the streets and see how foreigners are treated and taken for a ride everyday !

And for god's sake dont be a fucking ostrich and bury your head in the sand oblivious to the world. If they teach well and thats a fact. Accept it. We have lazy ass teachers here who could care shit about the students. So if they teach well and i decide go go and learn there, what the harm in that?
Who are you kidding abuot the reservations. You and me both know that its all just a political move.You think people are fools to protest about it and file a PIL against it ?? I dont know about being a man thrice all you are doing right now is crying like a pansy ..

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Vivek said...

I loved this shit! It had been a long time since I had visited this blog but now I'm glad I did.....
I fully agree with the underlying current in your post. Praise be to mera Bharath! Where else can a color blind person, who cant make our 2 of the 3 traffic signals, be given a motor license if not in India? You may cry wolf but life is easy in India, accept EETS.

A close friend of mine is a doctor of high caliber in a very high post in the US of A. He employs a maid at his house. 'Nuff said!
Even this guy is not treated right by the junta. His words are not considered highly. Folks go for a second opinion of his diagnosis, and here's the best part, to his junior staff!! Why o Why?? Coz he's Indian and they are white!! These are his words, not mine!
Face it India, you may be 32% of Microsoft and NASA, but you are not one of them. But what pains me the most is some of us adopt the same views and sentiments as they do, which I feel is just pathetic.

Money is the only motivating factor IMO which can compel a Ram/Raul/Rahim to go abraod. But those days are coming to a close. Subprime, Recession, Outsourcing, Fall, Boom, Blast, Thud - these words ring a bell?
Yes, India is the best! :-)

Vj said...

This is prolly the third read I gave to this blog. I'd say both yes and no.

I'm right now, not in India. I'd like to say, things are the same all over the world. If you don't agree, come to this part of the world and come see for yourself. In few places, planning took precedence over growth, and in few places, the reverse happened. I miss India, I miss my loved ones back home. I miss my band, I miss my shows. I agree there is a lot of corruption in India, I agree its unclean and there is classification based upon caste, creed. When people decide they don't need to go back to India just 'coz they've found a better place, its totally their decision. I can't comment on that. If they think they should get over the past and go on, I'd again say its their choice, though I'd not prefer to do so. 'coz, I don't think you can give up your past ever, at least in matters like these. I am proud to be an Indian. i'm not regretting having come to the US. There are good things and bad things for every thing. The intelligent absorb the good and get something out of it. On a smaller perspective, this means, you go to a stranger's house one day, coz you think he cooks good food, based on what others have said. And since you like it, you'll stay there coz he's cleaner than your mom in cooking and cooks more delicious food. Ah! such a delightful thought! Hmph!

If you are so pissed off with the corruption, stay there and fuckin' clean up the mess 'coz its your home. Appreciate the work people are doing, or just shut the fuck up. You can't comment on something you are barely doing. I mean, everyone has a hole to shit, do it, i'm doing the same.